Friday, December 5, 2008

IYOV 5

Ok so now its Tzofar’s turn to answer the question

He says a lot of complicated things about perception, but I will just explain a few things, this is the idea that someone you see as a tzadik, could be being punished. What is a tzadik someone who is fulfilling his potential, and a rosha is the opposite. So someone you see as a complete tzadik could be a rosha compared to his potential.

Another problem with our perception is we can’t see the real reward, i.e. Spiritual reward of the neshama we don’t really understand who is doing well and who is suffering.

Also we can never compare to g-d’s knowledge to ours, as it is complete and whole. So how can we know who he sees as a tzadik and a rosha. Rambam brings five differences between our knowledge and g-d’s. 1) One idea encompassing other ideas, 2) understands things which don’t exist yet 3) infinity 4) his knowledge of future doesn’t mean it will happen 5) g-d’s knowledge doesn’t increase or change as events take place.

Iyov answers saying, a few things again about how perception works that I don’t really want to go into and probably don’t understand. He also mentions the cruel idea of one person who thinks he is a tzadik and find out he is not, it is possible with Tzofar’s idea that someone can be good his whole life think he is doing well and get a very nasty shock when he dies. He then brings another proof about how bechirah doesn’t exist from kings. Saying kings are clearly controlled by g-d as they sometimes take foolish decisions for no reason playing into the plan of g-d. This is not such a weird idea we in mishlie and from stories with Dovid hamelech kings hearts are in g-d’s hand, and somehow kings have a different form of bechirah to us. IYOV also says a lot that the three comforters haven’t done a very good job cheering him up calling him a rosha and an idiot.

Now we go onto the second round and we have a new question previously we have discussed, why do tzadikim suffer now IYOV asks why do roshoim prosper?

OK SO IT’S ROUND TWO OF THIS EXCITING GAME, THE BOWLER IS..... IYOV!!!!

FIRST UP TO THE PLATE IS ......ELIFAZ!!!! LET’S SEE IF HE CAN DO BETTER THAN LAST TIME?

This is what he argues, does a beef burger taste good if you have to eat it while running away from the guy you just stole it from. When people get things in this world from shady means they are constantly scared of losing it all so much so they can’t enjoy it. He can’t trust anyone.

When someone sees wicked people prosper in this world, even though they may smile they are not happy, but they live in constant fear of losing everything.

On that note i wish everyone a good shabbous. (>_<)

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